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基督教对中国民主的影响

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时间和空间的概念和范畴离不开生命的属性。时间是生命的时间,空间是生命的空间。生命的时间和空间是自然宇宙。生命的空间是自然世界。生命的时间是历史。生命宇宙的时空是甚麽?生命宇宙的时空是地球的空间,太阳的 ...
henglangzi 发表于 2009-8-7 02:04



错的一塌糊涂,在有生命之前,地球是没有时间空间的?
什么叫生命的时间,生命的空间,我们不讨论文学表达,这种本源问题请用哲学概念
2009-8-7 01:20:35

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无聊,若真有神,在这个极度物质的时代,出个神迹看看
2009-8-7 01:23:08

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实在没有事情做就做点有意义的事情,唧唧喳喳还回应那漏洞百出的东西,还投票,真的没有事情做了。真的以为他是质疑基督教吗,不是,他们叫大家具有时政讨论的方向转移,扯一些里格冷。没有门。任何一个问题只有我们深入他就费了。
2009-8-7 07:24:50

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我又纳闷了,神干嘛要造出智慧果,还造出条邪恶的蛇,这不明摆着让蛇就范嘛

如果少了其中一个,或者都没有,小俩口还幸福地在伊甸园呢,多好 ...
野城 发表于 2009-8-7 00:48


那不就没你了么
2009-8-7 08:11:14

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圣经总是用人类的语言表达出来,不然创世纪不需要记载了,只用一句万物为上帝所造就好了。
阿 龙 发表于 2009-8-7 00:56


万物到底是上帝一瞬间所造,还是演化的?

这个七天不是七天,那犹太人的休息周期也是会错意了啊
2009-8-7 08:12:46

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-∞ ...... -3  -2  -1  0  1  2  3  ....... +∞

上帝是-∞,又是+∞,上帝更是从-∞到+∞,上帝是可以被无限细分的?
野城 发表于 2009-8-7 01:57


a piece of god
2009-8-7 08:26:23

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一个城市都需要狂野,上帝创造的人不是活僵尸,而是有自由有自由意志的人,可以选择爱,可以选择不爱,可以选择信,也可以选择叽里呱啦。但是人拥有自由意志,在邪恶的指引下,就有可能家里呱啦的。 ...
henglangzi 发表于 2009-8-7 00:54


看来基督教真的是强烈扭曲人性啊,看你一系列的回帖,
人家自己的想法,你非说人是在邪恶的指引下。。。。
你说人有自由意志,可以选择信,也可以选择不信,却又整出个异教徒来,说人家‘邪恶’,
还把自由、平等、博爱都扯出来了,既然都自由平等博爱了,干啥不许人信别的神?干啥要人有三六九等?干啥不爱神就要受苦?博爱个鸟,真的往自己脸上贴金
说人断章取义,可你没了圣经这本书肯定活不下去吧?人的生命由一本书来主宰。。。。你该说这又是神的旨意了吧?你就没想过你的圣经被人修改过很多次了,可能根本就没准确地记载你的神的旨意?

你信你的教,在你的小天地里怎么耍都可以,何苦要扯上我们这些不信的人?还说话带有诅咒意味,整的自己跟神似的,小心你的神说你越级而惩罚你
2009-8-7 08:36:22

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1,上帝是永恒的,多长的时间在永恒中都是无限小的点。
2,在我们的认知里,瞬间对于我们还是一段时间,难道瞬间没有时间长度?
3,6天是给人的时间概念,人类目前也在遵循一周7天的规律。 ...
阿 龙 发表于 2009-8-7 01:09


瞬间当然没有长度了,就像点没有大小一样,虽然你需要在纸上点一个有大小的黑点。

人类的历史只是一瞬间,那是比喻

我还说党的关怀温暖了我的心呢,难度他把心挖出来加热去了


6天是给人的时间概念,是什么意思?




看圣经非希伯来原文,这明显就是神在混沌之中创造了早晚,也就是规定了地球自转周期。


然后又创造了太阳和月亮


然后是各种东西。先植物,后动物。最后人


这个顺序我没理解错吧,


这个六天,不是六天?


这个顺序,基督徒都认同么?




1:1 起初神创造天地。
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.




1:2 地是空虚混沌。渊面黑暗。神的灵运行在水面上。
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.




1:3 神说,要有光,就有了光。
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.




1:4 神看光是好的,就把光暗分开了。
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.




1:5 神称光为昼,称暗为夜。有晚上,有早晨,这是头一日。
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.




1:6 神说,诸水之间要有空气,将水分为上下。
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.




1:7 神就造出空气,将空气以下的水,空气以上的水分开了。事就这样成了。
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.




1:8 神称空气为天。有晚上,有早晨,是第二日。
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.




1:9 神说,天下的水要聚在一处,使旱地露出来。事就这样成了。
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.




1:10 神称旱地为地,称水的聚处为海。神看是好的。
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.




1:11 神说,地要发生青草,和结种子的菜蔬,并结果子的树木,各从其类,果子都包着核。事就这样成了。
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.




1:12 于是地发生了青草,和结种子的菜蔬,各从其类,并结果子的树木,各从其类,果子都包着核。神看着是好的。
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.




1:13 有晚上,有早晨,是第三日。
And the evening and the morning were the third day.




1:14 神说,天上要有光体,可以分昼夜,作记号,定节令,日子,年岁。
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:




1:15 并要发光在天空,普照在地上。事就这样成了。
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.




1:16 于是神造了两个大光,大的管昼,小的管夜。又造众星。
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.




1:17 就把这些光摆列在天空,普照在地上。
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,




1:18 管理昼夜,分别明暗。神看着是好的。
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.




1:19 有晚上,有早晨,是第四日。
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.




1:20 神说,水要多多滋生有生命的物,要有雀鸟飞在地面以上,天空之中。
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.




1:21 神就造出大鱼和水中所滋生各样有生命的动物,各从其类。又造出各样飞鸟,各从其类。神看着是好的。
And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.




1:22 神就赐福给这一切,说,滋生繁多,充满海中的水。雀鸟也要多生在地上。
And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.




1:23 有晚上,有早晨,是第五日。
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.




1:24 神说,地要生出活物来,各从其类。牲畜,昆虫,野兽,各从其类。事就这样成了。
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.




1:25 于是神造出野兽,各从其类。牲畜,各从其类。地上一切昆虫,各从其类。神看着是好的。
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.




1:26 神说,我们要照着我们的形像,按着我们的样式造人,使他们管理海里的鱼,空中的鸟,地上的牲畜,和全地,并地上所爬的一切昆虫。
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.




1:27 神就照着自己的形像造人,乃是照着他的形像造男造女。
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.




1:28 神就赐福给他们,又对他们说,要生养众多,遍满地面,治理这地。也要管理海里的鱼,空中的鸟,和地上各样行动的活物。
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.




1:29 神说,看哪,我将遍地上一切结种子的菜蔬和一切树上所结有核的果子,全赐给你们作食物。
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.




1:30 至于地上的走兽和空中的飞鸟,并各样爬在地上有生命的物,我将青草赐给它们作食物。事就这样成了。
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.




1:31 神看着一切所造的都甚好。有晚上,有早晨,是第六日。
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.


2:1 天地万物都造齐了。
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.




2:2 到第七日,神造物的工已经完毕,就在第七日歇了他一切的工,安息了。
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.




2:3 神赐福给第七日,定为圣日,因为在这日神歇了他一切创造的工,就安息了。
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.




参与人数 1战斗币 +10 收起 理由
野城 + 10 你引经据典起来也够狠的

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2009-8-7 08:41:45

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3:15 我又要你和女人彼此为仇。你的后裔和女人的后裔也彼此为仇。女人的后裔要伤你的头,你要伤他的脚跟。
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.




3:16 又对女人说,我必多多加增你怀胎的苦楚,你生产儿女必多受苦楚。你必恋慕你丈夫,你丈夫必管辖你。
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.




好了,看来除了make不是make,  put也不是 put, multiply也不是multiply 了,都是任由的意思。。。


再叹一句 good god...
2009-8-7 08:45:03

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上帝看来是先造了地球后造了太阳~~

而且太阳还没造出来光就先给照出来了~~
2009-8-7 09:45:52

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看来基督教真的是强烈扭曲人性啊,看你一系列的回帖,
人家自己的想法,你非说人是在邪恶的指引下。。。。
你说人有自由意志,可以选择信,也可以选择不信,却又整出个异教徒来,说人家‘邪恶’,
还把自由、平等 ...
红月 发表于 2009-8-7 09:36


传教的人喜欢说,不信XX教就下地狱。
2009-8-7 11:13:55

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反正创世纪的时间悖论这坑这里是没人能填了

时间啊,多少罪恶因你之名
2009-8-7 13:19:35

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实在没有事情做就做点有意义的事情,唧唧喳喳还回应那漏洞百出的东西,还投票,真的没有事情做了。真的以为他是质疑基督教吗,不是,他们叫大家具有时政讨论的方向转移,扯一些里格冷。没有门。任何一个问题只有我们深入他就费了henglangzi 发表于 2009-8-7 08:24



不知道是谁废了,一个反教徒圣经读的都比你们熟
有理说理,就事论事,有坑就填,填不了就回家祈祷去
2009-8-7 13:22:00

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上帝看来是先造了地球后造了太阳~~

而且太阳还没造出来光就先给照出来了~~
eii 发表于 2009-8-7 10:45



上帝说了,基督徒是盐是光,他们自发光的
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然后又创造了太阳和月亮www.revefrance.com
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然后是各种东西。先植物,后动物。最后人www.revefrance.com
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这个顺序我没理解错吧,www.revefrance.com
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雅歌 发表于 2009-8-7 09:41

不好意思  看到这  我看成了。。。。植物人
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