The owner of this account very kindly allowed me (the creator of the poll) to use his login so I could answer remarks and critics over here. I am sorry, I didn't go over all of them yet, especially the most developed ones at the beginning of the topic. As you may understand, although most of the poll can't be changed right now, I realized the feedback was important enough so I activated an email link at the top of the form. Feel free to send me stuff @ mujianming@gmail.com, although because of my poor Chinese I may need some time before I can answer everything. Thanks in advance.
To Aubouj, thank you for your concerns about my identity. Last time I checked my ID I was indeed some random SciencePo student. I don't think I really need to get back to the personal attacks Ive seen here and there in your posts, you're entitled to them, Internet's a free speech space - and I am sorry to give you such a poor idea of my current school. But I will answer the primary issue you underlined: yes, the poll "doesn't make sense" in itself. Sorry, although it is not made to tell a story, it's about helping me harvesting the information I need at different levels so I can write down my essay. The scope of the work is broader than just Tibet, Paris, Jin Jing, Carrefour or the nature of netizenship, it's about something else that just can't be detailed right now as long as I can't be sure of what will be my conclusions: I am counting on your benevolent involvement for this, so I can know where I am heading to on a certain number of matters once a lot of people will have answered my call. Thank you in advance, and thanks to everyone who answered it already.
Moreover, as bernteinIT may agree, I am TRYING my best to provide a large and logical panel of answer to the questions. It couldn't be perfect, and I quite agree I am nowhere close to perfection. :(
But well I even often left the netizens with the choice of writing down their own answer, so to show I care about your opinion, whatever it may be. So feel free to use this option every time you can in the form, including (ans especially) in the last question.
In the same fashion, I saw comments about the fact that poll was "too long", and seemed sometimes more like an "interview". It's true, but it is on purpose. I wanted to get the most out of each participation, and harvest a lot of information. I apologize for the length of the poll ("太长, 太长了"我已经知道, 请不要骂我 ^^) but please rest assured every bit of extra information you will put in there will allow me to establish a much deeper link with the community than the average anonymous poll.
Finally, I will gladly ask to those who enjoyed answering to this poll if they would be kind enough to send it to those among their friends who may be interested, so I can muster the largest number of answers possible. 非常感谢你们!
there is actually some researches about it. scientist tried to ask people a question like "there is a epidemic disease all over the world and the lethality is extremely high, now we develop a method that can save 3/4 of these people, should we apply this method right now?" many people will say yes. However, if the scientiist change the "save 3/4" by "kill 1/4", more people will just say no.
cann't remember the exact question, if you want to know, try to search it yourself.
lz说,I am sorry to give you such a poor idea of my current school.
what do you really want to say? who give who what idea?
lz说这不是为了tell a story,那不tell story就可以不make sense了?
每个人都不是完美的,这句话谁都会说。。。但是lz明显是借口了
lz写这么长英语里面还有几句汉语,如果没有汉语输入法,大部分人都在开始会说sorry i cannot type chinese一类的话,lz英夹汉,well...
In English:
The choices do not have enough contrast among them, which will probably leave the respondents pondering on several similar ones, making the choices less representative. It's also obvious that the author of the pool tried hard not to provide choices that were, at least in his mind, "offensive" to the average Chinese "Netizen". Doing this may attract more respondents, but the neutrality of the pool will probably be sacrificed.
Prince, I understand your concern, and please be sure it crossed my mind when I wrote the whole survey. Yes, indeed, I tried my best not to seem offensive. But I tried to offer the complete opposite for every choice you could make, although the weight of each word may not be comparable: of course, most negative words were chosen because they were specifically used by Netizens on a large scale when talking about France during the crisis - while their opposite, being scarcely in use, may not correspond as easily to the reality as the more common depreciative ones do. That's why most of the questions which involve a multiple choice allow the user to write down his own mind. I am deeply sorry about that state of affair, and yes there is much room for improvement, you're completely right about that :)
The many cases where the users could wrote what they thought using their own words hopefully counterbalances a little bit a possibly clumsy choice for the other occurrences.
Thanks you for your feeback by the way! :)
问卷怎么会有客观性? 谁说卷怎会有客观性? It's all about aiming for objectivity, but the day you'll have reached it by every standard, without anything influencing in any way the public, give us a call and write a book, you'll have resolved one of the oldest issues of Social Sciences by yourself.
I tried to provide the users with a large panel of options, including custom ones. Everything that will be added by the users will be taken into consideration.
And if you really believe you can guess the outcome all by yourself, you're either very well acquainted with Netizen matters, or believe that your view stands for everyone else. I am not blessed with any of these abilities, so I will stick to my survey for the meantime. :)
what do you really want to say? who give who what idea?
I say Im sorry if I give a bad image of SciencesPo.
To the creator of the poll,
First of all, I apologize for my over reaction regarding to your poll. Indeed, I admired your school and its reputation since long and this will not change in despites of this internet discussion. I would be glad to share my point of view concerning the issue, if you don't mind.
In fact, I've entirely answered your questions and made a lot of comments on the comment place of the poll. For each part, I've marked all the contraries (in my opinion) between questions. The comments are in French and I wish you could remark them, as I've detailed the reasons in each comment place.
Truly, I am still sorry for my concern of your poll, but please believe that it is because I have so much hope on you and your school that some things in the poll make me...some kinds of disappoint
One thing I can never understand is that the poll considers the netizens as one entity! However, the fundamental difference between the modern society and the primitive society is the individualism. There is no such a thing the netizens the Chinese neither the Frenchmen. You will remark my comments on what concerns that not all the French people eat cheese and not all the Chinese eat dog. This collectivist thinking gave me a bad view of this poll.
Besides, I am agreeing with 雅歌 that the poll is manipulating the opinion. It seems like that by answering this poll you can only get what you want to hear! Typically something shows only one side of this issue, like nationalism (I don't like nationalism at all and I could hardly mark my opinion on this poll), like collectivism etc. I have made my comments about the matrix of confusion in statistics as you will remark it. As my studies give the possibilities to take an advantage in this field, I would like to say, the poll is not a good prediction model and will have a considerable error rate.
Finally, as the reaction we can see in this forum, we know that a great part of them have the same feeling about the poll. They cannot really express their opinion, their answers are used to say something else and then it will be considered as a scientific report! That’s also the thing which makes me disappointed. In reality, during the event of the last spring, a lot of people are somehow manipulated, if we can say like that. I think now, by answering those questions, I would probably ask, will someone just use this poll to “prove” what them want to prove? As someone of scientific background, I love the truth, so I cannot just answer the questions and say nothing. So I wish you can also remark my answers and comments.
I wish this discussion could be useful and fruitful, if we could forgive and understand each other.
Regards,
Aubonj