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盖茨,优生主义,抗生育疫苗,新种族主义,美式法西斯?

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2011-6-26 06:07:57

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有病么,搞的这么复杂,战争不更好,简单实用
2011-6-26 08:44:42

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bac 发表于 2011-6-26 08:44
有病么,搞的这么复杂,战争不更好,简单实用

美国人会蠢到重演希特勒么,况且他们与生俱来有伪善的天赋
2011-6-26 09:36:01

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计划生育作为 中国的一项基本国策,已经实施了20多年了。
maomimi113737
2011-6-26 16:38
31年了。 
2011-6-26 10:53:18

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截至2006年,盖茨已经连续12年高居《福布斯》全球富豪排行榜榜首。作为微软公司创始人之一,盖茨的净资产高达500亿美元,平均每分钟挣6659美圆.
  我找到了,比尔盖茨夫妇这几年相继捐献了240多亿美元,使该基金成为全球最充裕的基金会和最大的慈善组织。这样的故事很多,随便搜索,都能看到很多这样的捐钱信息,比如盖茨出手做善事 拿出2亿美元赞助疾病研究等。管理240亿慈善基金盖茨老爸帮儿子花钱
野城
2011-6-28 14:08
我也可以说美国人自己揭露盖茨基金会黑幕的例子也很多,但我能列举出文献出处,你这些只能叫道听途说 
2011-6-26 16:25:39

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这不是扯淡呢么。。。。
野城
2011-6-28 14:06
通常如果现实超过一个人的承受能力,他会产生巨大的逆反心理去反驳和无视它的存在 
2011-6-26 17:18:08

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真是脑残无极限
本版V神马WANG之外的又一朵奇葩
你先搞清楚TED是什么
并看完TED官网26分钟的盖茨演讲原版视屏再喷
野城
2011-6-26 20:45
说完了么?以后别来我这,get out! 
viepro
2011-6-26 20:39
野城, Don't think of yourself as a stupid person. Think of yourself as an ordinary monkey 
野城
2011-6-26 20:25
一个整天批圣经的神经病,你有正常过么,你就是一桶脏水到处泼 
2011-6-26 17:56:40

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我看完了,觉得他说得很有道理。。。。
2011-6-26 19:52:37

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mildheart 发表于 2011-6-26 10:53
计划生育作为 中国的一项基本国策,已经实施了20多年了。

诺贝尔和平奖的提名者曾经说,中国独生子女政策的制定者应该获得诺贝尔和平奖;美国的人权基金会,包括福特基金会、洛克菲勒基金会,一直和中国人口与计划生育委员会合作,大力推进中国的计划生育工作(计划生育带来的后果远不止“人道”问题)。我上次说,举出这些例子,并不是要证明“阴谋论”,而是想表明,那些为计划生育辩护的人士手里的“民族牌”、“人权牌”、“悲情牌”,其实都是些烂牌。
2011-6-26 20:15:35

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JAZZ 发表于 2011-6-26 16:25
截至2006年,盖茨已经连续12年高居《福布斯》全球富豪排行榜榜首。作为微软公司创始人之一,盖茨的净资产高 ...

美国孟山都等国际海盗公司出口转基因种子和化肥也是打着帮助发展中国家解困的旗号
到头来侵犯他国农业主权,严重破坏传统农业和生态,更必得印度12年内20万农业自*杀

索罗斯这种投机倒把到处利用资本劫掠他国财富的头号吸血鬼,马云还整天说索罗斯是大慈善家
这世上没有索罗斯,国际金融危机可以少掉一般

你要相信美国人,除非你是美国人,美国的民主和自由只内销,不出口,相反,对外掠夺才能长期保证美国的优越生活
2011-6-26 20:22:34

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firedd 发表于 2011-6-26 19:52
我看完了,觉得他说得很有道理。。。。

是啊,美国人的生活水平不能降低,发展中国家人口太多
呼出的二氧化碳也太多了,需要通过疫苗来控制人口和出生率

你可以牺牲自己不要下一代么,这里有几个为了减少碳排放不要下一代的,站出来!
否则别这儿说真理解美国人了!


凡事要设身处地,同样的道理,如同以前讨论妓女可以合法化,那首先你要能接受你的妻女也做这职业而毫无芥蒂,几个人能做到?做不到就不要说!


2011-6-26 20:30:53

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野城 发表于 2011-6-26 21:30
是啊,美国人的生活水平不能降低,发展中国家人口太多
呼出的二氧化碳也太多了,需要通过疫苗来控制人口 ...

首先,我非常想 新疫苗开发医疗服务生殖健康方面的工作 (特别是新疫苗)是哪些?

其次,在不知道这几项工作的前提下,以我以往所接触到的知识来讲,他的讲话没有错误。

人口增长率的影响,是多方面的,这个也涉及到很多问题,我解决不。也懒得去找资料了,大体说一下。。。

人口自然增长率=(年内出生人数-年内死亡人数)/年平均人口数×1000‰=人口出生率-人口死亡率
现在老龄化增加,人口死亡率相对以前来讲,是减少的。所以,大头还是在出生率上面。

影响出生率的因素:

     . 政府的鼓励或者限制性的人口政策
     . 现有的年龄性别组成结构
     . 社会文化和宗教信仰 - 特别是对避孕的看法
     . 妇女的文化水平
     . 经济发展水平(按理论上说,当经济繁荣、文化程度提高,人们越有能力抚养更多孩子;但是实际情况却是,发达地区的人口出生率总是很低。)
     . 贫穷程度 - 在发展中国家,儿童因为可以劳动赚钱而被视为一个经济收入的来源
     . 婴幼儿死亡率 - 如果一个国家的婴幼儿死亡率高,那么这个国家中家庭会生更多的孩子,因为人们预期有一些孩子会夭折。

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%90%84%E5%9B%BD%E4%BA%BA%E5%8F%A3%E5%87%BA%E7%94%9F%E7%8E%87%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8

发达国家的出生率是低于发展中、贫穷国家的。为啥越是发达的国家,他们没有使用计划生育政策,但出生率反倒低呢?

他们的疫苗开发(此处我所理解的疫苗和你认为的疫苗功能不一样,也是我所认为的比尔口中所讲的疫苗,并且认为他没有问题的原因)医疗服务生殖健康方面的工作,无疑也比贫穷国家做得很好。

法国是鼓励生,有的国家是鼓励生,人口还是在降。很多东西是互为矛盾,综合影响,并且最终影响到社会思维的。正是由于这些东西的综合影响,反倒使人口增长降低。

此处,你是过度解读了。




2011-6-26 21:05:47

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本帖最后由 野城 于 2011-6-26 21:28 编辑
firedd 发表于 2011-6-26 21:05
首先,我非常想 新疫苗开发医疗服务生殖健康方面的工作 (特别是新疫苗)是哪些?

其次,在不知道这几项 ...

任何国际事件不要孤立分析,要放在国际环境的大背景下,这不是空穴来风
你去youtube看看,不光是我,很多美国人自己也质疑盖茨这段话!!!我也列举了不少素材


何况我正是发展中国家广大人民中的一员,我出于发展中国家的立场得出这样的分析很正常
你分析不要离开他的公式,他开头就说要试图减少公式中的所有因子,包括人口,至少要4个因子中的一个逼近于0,碳排放才能为0.

请你看清他的原话,再做推测,好么,我这不厌其烦再贴一次
"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [number of 9 billion] by perhaps 10 or 15 percent. But there we see an increase of about 1.3 [billion]."


他提出控制人口的倡议是他的自由,但如果他要用美国的新技术作为干预他国人口控制的手段(如同用转基因和金融武器干预一样),那不仅仅是干涉主权,更是干涉人权!我为什么说这有法西斯色彩。人种优胜劣汰一直是法西斯热衷的主题,特别用技术干预就更是一种符合法西斯口味的漠视个体差异的行为!
野城
2011-6-26 21:30
很简单,他提出用生物技术手段控制人口,当然特别是发展中国家人口,这是完全漠视人权的行为 
firedd
2011-6-26 21:28
我依然对你的回复无法理解。 
2011-6-26 21:24:42

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回复 firedd 的帖子

我不明白,我举了那些材料却要无视
有些同学动不动就喜欢喊阴谋论,那是典型的放弃思考或者别有用心,网上这么多资料不看一看,就喊阴谋论了

当然不是说你大狗,不过你有看文章么?

Bill Gates: Use Vaccines To Lower Population
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, March 1,  2010





Microsoft founder Bill Gates told a recent TED conference, an organization which is sponsored by one of the largest toxic waste polluters on the planet, that vaccines need to be used to reduce world population figures in order to solve global warming and lower CO2 emissions.

Stating that the global population was heading towards 9 billion, Gates said, “If we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services (abortion), we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 per cent.”

Quite how an improvement in health care and vaccines that supposedly save lives would lead to a lowering in global population is an oxymoron, unless Gates is referring to vaccines that sterilize people, which is precisely the same method advocated in White House science advisor John P. Holdren’s 1977 textbook Ecoscience, which calls for a dictatorial “planetary regime” to enforce draconian measures of population reduction via all manner of oppressive techniques, including sterilization.

“I’m not sure what the nothing-to-see-here explanation is for Bill Gates’ theory that “new vaccines” can help lower the population of the world,” points out the Cryptogon blog, “But I thought about the incidents from the 1990s where the World Health Organization was providing a “tetanus vaccine” to poor girls and women (and just poor girls and women) that contained human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG). For those who don’t want to delve into that, in short, it was a World Health Organization experiment; a test of a vaccine against pregnancy.”

After presenting an equation that included the number of people on the planet and CO2 emissions, Gates said, “Probably one of these numbers is going to get pretty near to zero.”

Later in the presentation, Gates mentions picking a vaccine, “which is something I love,” that would be used to lower global CO2 emissions.





He also advocates pouring more money into the global warming scam by way of the United Nations, as well as a “CO2 tax” and cap and trade, while making it clear that the developed world would have to reduce its living standards by cutting back on essential services that generate CO2.

Gates said that a 20 per cent reduction in CO2 emissions was necessary by 2020, a 50 per cent reduction by 2050, and ultimately that there had to be zero CO2 emissions globally, a measure that would completely reverse hundreds of years of technological progress and return man to the agrarian age, all in the name of preventing an alleged miniscule temperature increase that has been proven to be based on fraudulent data models in light of the Climategate scandal.

One of Gates’ proposals for reducing CO2 emissions is the use of biofuels, which as a new report highlights, has resulted in millions of acres of forests being destroyed, which ultimately means a net increase in CO2 emissions from biofuels when compared to fossil fuels, not to mention the massive devastation caused to wildlife.

As we have documented, a CO2 reduction of 50-80 per cent, not to mention 100 per cent, would inflict a new great depression in the United States, reducing GDP by 6.9 percent – a figure comparable with the economic meltdown of 1929 and 1930.

Additionally, the “post-industrial revolution” being proposed by Gates and his ilk would lead to massive job losses.

The implementation of so-called “green jobs” in other countries has devastated economies and cost millions of jobs. As the Seattle Times reported back in June, Spain’s staggering unemployment rate of over 18 per cent was partly down to massive job losses as a result of attempts to replace existing industry with wind farms and other forms of alternative energy.

In a so-called “green economy,” “Each new job entails the loss of 2.2 other jobs that are either lost or not created in other industries because of the political allocation — sub-optimum in terms of economic efficiency — of capital,” states the report.

The fact that Gates would be so open in his call to use vaccines to lower global population (without a word as to the human rights considerations), probably has a lot to do with the audience attending his speech.

The TED organization admits that it is elitist, “in a good way,” and charges a whopping $6,000 dollars membership fee which must be paid by conference attendees. TED also charges nearly $1,000 just for its live conference web stream. The organization’s sponsors include IBM and military-industrial complex kingpin General Electric, which has a notorious history of environmental misdeeds, being ranked fourth-largest corporate producer of air pollution in the United States, with more than 4.4 million pounds per year (2,000 Tonnes) of toxic chemicals released into the air. GE is also a major contributor to the toxic waste problem, rendering its sponsorship of an organization that claims to be seeking solutions to environmental problems completely hypocritical.

2011-6-26 21:40:27

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说句实话 我知道要挨拍
我赞成减少世界人口 包括中国人口
samaelvice
2011-6-28 14:33
俩夫妻一个娃就已经是为世界人口减负了 还扯不上打针 
野城
2011-6-28 14:05
记着让你老婆提前打抗生育疫苗 
samaelvice
2011-6-28 11:43
呵呵 
野城
2011-6-27 17:24
说这话的人如果能交出永久生育权,那我不说什么,但你不能代表广大人民 
2011-6-27 11:38:13

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