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6大,ParisTech,ENS的科研对比

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2013-5-25 13:27:09

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本帖最后由 阿拉丁Pascal 于 2013-5-29 00:19 编辑

这种工程师、大学之争实在没有意思
我觉得两边都别把自己看的太高 大学的也别把自己看的太低
仅以我有限的对学校了解来说
大学 有医学类、基础医学类 这些工程师似乎没有
工程师 法企认可度高、工资高 这些大学也没法比
产业上中下游都得有人去干
谁也别看不起谁 谁也别觉得自己学校就多么多么牛了
每个人的志向都不一样
有人喜欢搞科研 不在乎钱多钱少 那就去大学
有人希望留在法国 找份好点的工作 那就去工程师
我就很欣赏那些工程师 商校的 不是欣赏他们的学校
我欣赏他们的刻苦程度 他们的社交能力
我也不会看扁大学的 语言类的 做科研的 同样也需要十分的努力
2013-5-29 01:17:47

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2013-10-1 02:21:29

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wheatone 发表于 2013-10-1 02:21
1 学校再牛,是学校牛,不是你牛。
2 牛校靠的是牛人,不是牛招牌。
3 “我的目标是Bac+5然后去牛企”...为 ...

这个说的不错。说句题外话,专业是自己的唯一,学校只是经历之一。学校不会使学生高贵,是学生的成就使学校骄傲
2013-10-2 22:10:51

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2013-5-25 13:27:59

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2013-5-25 13:28:53

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在法国,ParisTech肯定比大学名气好。但出了法国呢?特别是回国的话,不信问问我们的父母,听说过那些绕口的Ecoles缩写吗
但很有可能他们知道居里夫人,非常有可能他们知道巴黎这个城市。解释6大,只需要一句话,居里夫人的大学
解释那些Ecoles呢?
2013-5-25 13:34:35

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六大数学最牛逼???  = =。
2013-5-25 13:36:05

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gf330147394 发表于 2013-5-25 13:36
六大数学最牛逼???  = =。

世界数学科研成果排名

世界数学科研成果排名

世界数学科研成果排名
2013-5-25 13:40:37

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楼主在六大学什么专业的?
2013-5-25 13:40:58

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gf330147394 发表于 2013-5-25 13:40
楼主在六大学什么专业的?

我不是6大的。
2013-5-25 13:42:22

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innov 发表于 2013-5-25 13:40
世界数学科研成果排名

2012 的时候被11大反超了。。。
2013-5-25 13:43:08

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gf330147394 发表于 2013-5-25 13:43
2012 的时候被11大反超了。。。

善于查信息的好孩子!
2013-5-25 13:44:36

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innov 发表于 2013-5-25 13:44
善于查信息的好孩子!

帮LZ顶帖。哈哈。
2013-5-25 13:47:08

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innov 发表于 2013-5-25 13:40
世界数学科研成果排名

楼主给我们解释解释,alumni这词是个神马意思
2013-5-25 15:10:56

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noulle 发表于 2013-5-25 15:10
楼主给我们解释解释,alumni这词是个神马意思

http://www.arwu.org/ARWUMethodology2010.jsp
Ranking Methodology
Selection of Universities        Ranking Criteria and Weights        Definition of Indicators        Data Sources
Selection of Universities
ARWU considers every university that has any Nobel Laureates, Fields Medalists, Highly Cited Researchers, or papers published in Nature or Science. In addition, universities with significant amount of papers indexed by Science Citation Index-Expanded (SCIE) and Social Science Citation Index (SSCI) are also included. In total, more than 1000 universities are actually ranked and the best 500 are published on the web.

Ranking Criteria and Weights
Universities are ranked by several indicators of academic or research performance, including alumni and staff winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals, highly cited researchers, papers published in Nature and Science, papers indexed in major citation indices, and the per capita academic performance of an institution. For each indicator, the highest scoring institution is assigned a score of 100, and other institutions are calculated as a percentage of the top score. The distribution of data for each indicator is examined for any significant distorting effect; standard statistical techniques are used to adjust the indicator if necessary. Scores for each indicator are weighted as shown below to arrive at a final overall score for an institution. The highest scoring institution is assigned a score of 100, and other institutions are calculated as a percentage of the top score. An institution's rank reflects the number of institutions that sit above it.

Indicators and Weights for ARWU
Criteria        Indicator        Code        Weight
Quality of Education        Alumni of an institution winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals        Alumni        10%
Quality of Faculty        Staff of an institution winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals        Award        20%
Highly cited researchers in 21 broad subject categories        HiCi        20%
Research Output        Papers published in Nature and Science*        N&S        20%
Papers indexed in Science Citation Index-expanded and Social Science Citation Index        PUB        20%
Per Capita Performance        Per capita academic performance of an institution        PCP        10%
Total                        100%
* For institutions specialized in humanities and social sciences such as London School of Economics, N&S is not considered, and the weight of N&S is relocated to other indicators.
Definition of Indicators
Indicator        Definition
Alumni       
The total number of the alumni of an institution winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals. Alumni are defined as those who obtain bachelor, Master's or doctoral degrees from the institution. Different weights are set according to the periods of obtaining degrees. The weight is 100% for alumni obtaining degrees in after 1991, 90% for alumni obtaining degrees in 1981-1990, 80% for alumni obtaining degrees in 1971-1980, and so on, and finally 10% for alumni obtaining degrees in 1901-1910. If a person obtains more than one degrees from an institution, the institution is considered once only.
Award       
The total number of the staff of an institution winning Nobel Prizes in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine and Economics and Fields Medal in Mathematics. Staff is defined as those who work at an institution at the time of winning the prize. Different weights are set according to the periods of winning the prizes. The weight is 100% for winners in after 2001, 90% for winners in 1991-2000, 80% for winners in 1981-1990, 70% for winners in 1971-1980, and so on, and finally 10% for winners in 1911-1920. If a winner is affiliated with more than one institution, each institution is assigned the reciprocal of the number of institutions. For Nobel prizes, if a prize is shared by more than one person, weights are set for winners according to their proportion of the prize.
HiCi       
The number of highly cited researchers in 21 subject categories. These individuals are the most highly cited within each category. The definition of categories and detailed procedures can be found at the website of Thomson ISI.
N&S       
The number of papers published in Nature and Science between 2005 and 2009. To distinguish the order of author affiliation, a weight of 100% is assigned for corresponding author affiliation, 50% for first author affiliation (second author affiliation if the first author affiliation is the same as corresponding author affiliation), 25% for the next author affiliation, and 10% for other author affiliations. Only publications of 'Article' and 'Proceedings Paper' types are considered.
PUB       
Total number of papers indexed in Science Citation Index-Expanded and Social Science Citation Index in 2009. Only publications of 'Article' and 'Proceedings Paper' types are considered. When calculating the total number of papers of an institution, a special weight of two was introduced for papers indexed in Social Science Citation Index.
PCP       
The weighted scores of the above five indicators divided by the number of full-time equivalent academic staff. If the number of academic staff for institutions of a country cannot be obtained, the weighted scores of the above five indicators is used. For ARWU 2010, the numbers of full-time equivalent academic staff are obtained for institutions in USA, UK, France, Canada, Japan, Italy, China, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, South Korea, Czech, Slovenia, New Zealand etc.
Data Sources
Indicator        Data Source
Nobel laureates        http://nobelprize.org/
Fields Medals        http://www.mathunion.org/medals/
Highly cited researchers        http://www.isihighlycited.com
Papers published in Nature and Science        http://www.isiknowledge.com
Articles indexed in Science Citation Index-Expanded and Social Science Citation Index        http://www.isiknowledge.com
Others        Number of academic staff. Data is obtained from national agencies such as National Ministry of Education, National Bureau of Statistics, National Association of Universities and Colleges, National Rector's Conference.
2013-5-25 15:14:39

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交大的排名什么时候这么出名了?
法国人不是非常不买账的么?不是说要出自己的排名的么?
2013-5-26 10:54:00

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gottheit 发表于 2013-5-26 10:54
交大的排名什么时候这么出名了?
法国人不是非常不买账的么?不是说要出自己的排名的么? ...

你看世界媒体关注Ecole de mine那个恶心排名了吗
他们2009年后就不搞了
http://www.mines-paristech.eu/About-us/Rankings/
2013-5-26 10:57:48

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